Written by Nathan Cloud on Thursday, 04 Sep 2008.
| Who: | Joplin R Remote Control Adjustable Height Seatpost |
| What: | Seatpost |
| Where: | Crank Brothers |
| How Much: | $285.00 USD |
I LOVE GADGETS! I AM LAZY!
I have always wanted of these automatic seat post deals, I even came close to grabbing a Gravity Dropper seat post a few years back, but I just couldn't quite pull that trigger. I mean c'mon, these things are damn expensive and did I really need one?! Probably not, do I need one now? Probably not. Do I have one now? Yeah I do.
Let's see... throw in 1 part not being able to help myself, 1 part extra disposable income, 1 part deal o' the century, and 1 part self preservation. The first 3 parts I think are pretty self explanatory, but self preservation? Yeah, ya see, I am a pretty poor rider to begin with, and when I am tired I make some silly decisions - like not taking the time to lower my seat when I really should. I had a handful of those last year that ended sloppily - no injuries - just a few wipe outs, a few baggy short crotches stuck on the seat nose, ya know, typical seat issues.
Ok, now, picture this: you are tearing ass through the woods (obviously you are not riding with me) and you know there is a nice tech roller or rock garden or drop coming - you flip a switch and BOOM, your seat lowers, you roll down or through or across whatever so smoothly and confidently that all on-lookers are like "awww yeah, that was the bees knees and/or cats pajamas". You are legend. You are a rock star. You then high five them all doing a one handed wheelie and continue on your way.
Alright, alright... that all might be stretch (I can't wheelie after all), but still, being able to drop your seat post whenever you want? Doing it easily without having to get off your bike, pry open a quick release seat collar, adjust its height, then making sure the seat is straight, reclamping it, riding, then do this process again just to raise it back up? Avoiding all that jazz sounds nice doesn't it?
Yeah it does.
Enter the "Joplin R" Remote Control Adjustable Height Seat Post
The Specs
First off, it is no secret that Crank Brothers bought the rights or whatever for this design from Mavericks Speedball Remote seat post. Crank Brothers pretty much just spiffed it up with some anodization, gnurling, graphics and packaging - thus it became the Joplin. Now throw in a remote, and you got yourself the Joplin R.
Regardless, taken directly from the Crank Brothers site, here is the technical skinny:
- Material: aluminum
- Post Length: 382mm
- Weight: 534g
- Adjustment Range: 75mm / 3in.
- Cable Type: Standard shift cable
- Diameters Available: 30.9mm and 31.6mm
- Warranty: 2 years
- Msrp: $285
Initial Impressions
Crank Brothers don't mess around. The packaging is slick and shiny - perhaps even a bit too slick. I always complain about this, but I can't help but wonder how much extra the consumer pays for this? As one of my college professors said about lingerie, "Bah... who needs it. Same candy, different wrapper." Anyway, it was nice packaging, the Joplin all shiny and pretty snuggling in a bed of foam. Made you feel kinda nice opening it up, then again, so does an extra 20 bones in your wallet.
Alas, I digress...
The build quality of the thing is gorgeous. The design, simply put, is tight. A few nice anodized bits for accept, polished aluminum, it is not covered with a million logos, and the design itself is clean.
How it works
Operating the Joplin is a simple as pushing or pulling a remote "joystick" and applying some bodyweight to your seat - this makes it lower. To raise it, press the joystick and unweight the seat - it rises. I should also note that it is also nice that you can pretty much raise and lower to any point within its 3 inches of "travel", and since it is air sprung, it seems to offer the action a certain level of "smoothness". It rises and lowers with a bit of resistance, not too much though - it is juuuust right. Exactly like adjusting a pneumatic office chair.
Installation
If you knew me and I told you that I installed it (successfully) then read no further. The instructions were very basic and didn't seem to match the overall slickness of the rest of the packaging, but I found they were clear and to the point. Everything else you needed was included and the only tools you needed were a couple allen wrenches - it was a peice of cake to install.
The only thing that I thought might be worth noting was the length of the cable and housing included. My bike is a large with a more on the "compact side" cockpit and the cable length was perfect. So if you happen to be some sort of super tall mutant and/or have a bike with a really long cockpit, you might have to go buy yourself a some longer cable and housing.
The Ride
Off the bike, you can feel a little bit of lateral play when you grab the seat - and we are talking about less than a millimeter of play. On the bike? You don't notice this at all. In fact, it felt as solid as the Thomson post it replaced. I positioned the remote set in a little right above my rear brake lever - it was accessable and was 99% out the way, but I still might play around with this a little more.
Riding? It made me giggle. It was cool. I couldn't stop playing with it - pedaling around going "hey, look at this (snikt = low rider)!" - "wha? hey (snakt = xc efficiency)!" - "What, your seatpost doesn't do that?" And this was all in the parking lot. On the trail, when I actually remembered I had this technology, it turned out to be a very nice feature. Things I would always hit not bothering to adjust my seat I rode with a new found confidence (hence speed), and hell, lets throw in new found convenience too. As mentioned above, it saved me from 'chancing' things that I should probably have dropped my seat for.
The Joplin certainly has not seen a lot of saddle time at this point, so the jury on its overall durability is still out. So far it is holding up fine against my larger than average frame, and I am not much of a "huckster", so any punishment I deal is going to be in the average range.
It did however take a few body weight "shots" when fully extended and on an instance or two it may have made some weird noises. To be fair though, it may have been something else on my bike! One instance certainly did cause the nose of the seat to angle down. This was probably more a symptom of the clamping mechanism - which made it as easy at it can get to mount the seat and adjust it, but, I noticed the "inner" half of the clamping mechanism appears to be plastic, which made me hesitant to really tighten it down.
Lastly, as you probably would imagine, it is another device with moving parts, so there is little doubt in my mind that something will eventually malfunction. Good thing it has a 2 year warranty and Crank Brothers is good people!
Conclusion
The Pros
- Confidence inspiring!
- Convenience inspiring!
- Clean, good looking, solid design.
- The remote mechanism is perfect. Works and can mount pretty much anywhere.
The Cons
- Holy crap it is expensive!
- ONLY 30.9mm and 31.6mm diameters are currently available.
- You gotta deal with an extra cable and more junk on your handlebars.
- You are adding an extra 1/2 pound to your ride.
- Adds an extra bit of potential for bike failure.
Overall
So far, I love this thing. Granted I am still adjusting to using it, I am 99% certain this thing is staying on my bike for the long haul. Durability is really the big question, and only time will tell us that. It seems the Joplin is best suited for all mountain / aggressive XC riders that don't mind adding another something mechanical and a little weight to their bikes.
And sure, ok, on paper, yeah, it has a lot working against it. It does really just seem kind of silly and, considering the price, not worth it - but all can say is if you find yourself fiddling with your seat height a couple times a ride (or even thinking about it), give one a try - because if you ask me, there is a good chance it will win you over.
The big question: Does it make riding more fun? I say yes!
Still freakin' expensive though.

has anyone had any issues with the joplin in the cold?
nate will you buy me one for xmas? :-D
also i got the switchback 3 light on ebay you suggested and i have yet to use it! i vow to use them this year before the snow and ice arrives...i vow damnit!
*thinks about posting on ride board*
Just checking in once again now that I have some rides with this thing under my belt...
It f-in rules. I am loving this thing <Smile>
I have my joystick in the same place as Tim. I have no problems hitting it when I want to and haven't ever hit it accidentally.
My remote is mounted on the top of my bars on the left side. I have the position set so that the remote joystock is directly above my thumb shifter. That way I can use my thumb to shift and lower / raise the seat without changing my grip.
Out of curiosity, granted you guys have the remote versions, where do you have it mounted? I am still playing around with position and am not entirely settled on anything yet.
I have had a Maverick Speedball R (same thing as a Joplin) for a little over a year. I've had no problems with it, although the side to side play thing has gotten a bit greater - still not annoying, but I think I will send it back to Maverick for a checkup this winter. I probably change my seat height a hundred times during a ride, ok maybe that's a bit exaggerated, but I use it A LOT!
When I got my new bike I rode it with the lighter rigid seatpost, just to keep the weight down on the new bike. It only took two rides for me to put the Speedball on the new bike. Once you are used to it, it's really hard to go back to a rigid post.
Besides the weight, another "negative" - I get a lot of comments about how I'm not getting back far enough when I roll stuff - its an illusion 'cause my seat is so low.
Anyway, great product and way beyond "gadget" status.
John
I have the Joplin R also, been using it for about 3 month so far and love it. Bar far the best $200 buck I have spent on my bike (ya, I said $200. I found a super sweet deal!). I will never own a bike without one and I am going to get an AMP adjustable seat post for my wifes bike. The Joplin wont fill her frame
Check it out, a Joplin I type version for hella less: http://www.mtbr.com/cat/controls/Seatpost/sette/ryde-st-850/PRD_418242_141crx.aspx
But the build quality seems to be shabby, I'll do some more researching.
What an amazing seatpost and what an amazing price. I would love to have something like that but with a high school income, I just can't afford it (and would rather spend it on a nice Marzocchi front fork).
Droppin' posts rock! Two Descender (the non-remote Gravity Droppers) in my fleet, and I'd not build another trail use bike without one. Particularly great on a trail when you know what is coming -when you want your seat up/down.
Downside: once in a while I wish I'd spring the extra coin for the remote versions. Preset "drops" on it; mine are the full up/1" drop/4" drop versions. Heavier than a post and QR, but the functionality is so damn worth it I don't care.
Upside: the Dropper post has 4" of drop vs. 3" on the Joplin. The 1" is perfect when things are flowy/pedally, and you just want things a bit lower. Comes in a nice 27.2mm flavor, which I understand Crank Bros. is working on for the Joplin.
Looked at that... I don't know if I would trust it. That is just going off of some internet photos though, who knows what it could be in real life?
The seat clamp? Best described with a picture: http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/2067862/ (actually, they do a nice writeup there as well)
E: Yup, air sprung and oil dampened. I have not noticed it acting weird when I flip my bike around, might give that a try when I get home. The only semi strange thing is if it is compressed all the way down, you can lift the seat up without using the remote. Of course it just falls back into place, but worth mentioning.
Aero, from what I saw it reminds me of an old BMX style clamp with the one nut on one side that tightens the whole thing. Honestly, it looks slick, no doubt.
N8, This is air? No oil or anything? So, if/when you get a flat tire, flip your bike upside-down to pop the wheel off, nothing leaks or randomly compresses? Good writeup as always! Look fwd to forthcoming updates.
How does the seat clamp work? Is it two splined surfaces inter-meshing?
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